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warn about the sec kwster's deep impact. >> this is going to happen sfwloosh clarify why -- it's the matter of mileage between -- >> because we're going to reduce the number of controllers which will reduce their ability to guide planes in and out of airports. >> republicans say that's just scare tactics. >> the president is making stuff up. he puts law enforcement -- he puts firemen and policemen who 98% of them are being paid for with your local taxes and says you're going to lose your local policeman because of this. it's not true. >> and countdown to the oscars. we'll talk to the man behind the mom natured documentary five broken cameras about the conflict in the west bank. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington where we have breaking news from the justice
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department now, which is joining a lawsuit by a former teammate against lance armstrong. nbc justice correspondent pete williams jones me now from the newsroom. how is the justice department getting into this case? what is the affect of that? >> well, legal sources tell, you andrea, that the justice department will sign on and its considerable weight to a lawsuit that's been filed against armstrong by one of its former tour de france teammates, floyd landis. he filed this lawsuit two years ago basically claiming that lance armstrong defrauded the federal government. here's the theory of the case. the claim is that when armstrong agreed to race for the team sponsored by the u.s. postal service, he was in essence defrauding the government because the postal service requires everybody who works for it not to use any illegal drugs, and armstrong, landis claims, was, in fact, blood doping and using hormones chshgs are both forbidden by the fewer defrance and they claim by the postal
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service itself. it's a civil lawsuit claiming that he cheated the government and, of course, the u.s. postal service paid millions of dollars to sponsor the tour de france teams on which lance armstrong raced and, of course, won. now, metro detroit landis has already admitted cheating, but he says in the lawsuit that's how he knew what lance armstrong was up to. now, it's not a slam dunk, andrea, because, first of all, there's a question of how long ago this happened and whether you can still sue over it now. there's also a question of whether armstrong explicitly signed a contract with the postal service which would have forbidden him to do it, or whether it was a more general contract. his lawyers also say that they tried for weeks to settle this or work a resolution with the government, and here's what they say. they say they don't think the postal service was ever damaged. let me quote to you from robert luskin who was a lawyer for lance armstrong. he says the postal service's own studies show that the postal service benefitted tremendously from its sponsorship.
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benefits totalling more than $100 million. their claim here is that this was a net plus for the postal service even despite whatever bad faith there may have been. >> pete williams with the breaking news from the newsroom. thanks, pete. meanwhile, a south african magistrate has granted bail for oscar pistorius, deciding after all those days of hearings that the shooting of his girlfriend was not premeditated. >> he will be released on bail. >> yes! >> we are going to meet mr. pistorius to make sure that we -- >> nbc's michelle kazinski, joins me now from pretoria, who has been covering it from the start. michelle, surprising to some. looking at it from outside the criminal justice system in south africa. you having watched all of this understand with all these twists and turns the prosecution case was at times damaged. >> exactly right. i mean, this turned into a surprise. it didn't necessarily start out that way. the ruling was read, and oscar
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pistorius broke down sobbing. his body shaking. like you said, the case is so complicated, but such widely different sides. depending who you talk to, this is either a tragic accident or premeditated murder. this judge kept everyone guessing. his ruling lasted two hours, and in it he criticized prosecutors saying their witness, this chief police investigator presented flawed evidence, made mistakes, should have done more work, but he then said that doesn't necessarily mean that the state's case is not strong. then he hit pistorius saying he had big problems with pistorius's account of what happened early that morning. even to say if pistorius felt so vulnerable and scared as he claimed, that he had to grab his gun, start shooting, not knowing who is in that bathroom, why didn't he -- why did he rush toward that danger? he actually had to go inside the bathroom where he claims he thought the burglar was. why didn't he take one of many other opportunities that the
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judge said were available to him, but ultimately he did rule that pistorius was not a flight risk, not a danger, released him on bail because those were the two big questions here, and that is what ended up happening. andrea. >> and so he made his bail. $113,000. now what happens to oscar pistorius? what are the restrictions on hem for these coming months? >> yeah. lots of conditions attached to this. it seemed like the judge wanted to do what he had to do according to the law based on those questions that i mentioned, but he didn't want to make it easy for pistorius. you can really tell how careful this judge was being. maybe wanting to please everyone by not making it too cut and dry and just releasing him. pistorius now has to surrender his passports, his guns. he can't use drugs or alcohol. he can't return to the scene of the alleged crime, which is his house. he needs permission to leave town, and he is going to have to check in with police twice a week, andrea. >> michelle kazinski, thank you very much. a very busy day there in
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pretoria. thanks for all your reporting, and the sequester deadline, meanwhile, looms exactly one week from today. the president has started calling republican leaders, at least in the last couple of days, but neither side has budged. joining me for our daily fix chris calizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of, and bloomberg views columnist martha carlson. welcome both. chris, what do you expect, if anything, in the coming weeks? is it all baked in the cake? everyone assumes it's going to happen, and despite all of the alarms that are going off about the impact, the public doesn't seem terribly concerned, chris brsh. >> no. what i expect in the next week, andrea, is more of what we saw from transportation secretary la hood today, and we've seen from president obama the last few days and we've seen from house republicans, which is setting the stakes, saying this is a real thing, this is a problem that the american people should pay attention, and making clear who -- that the other guy is to blame for it. it seems to me that the
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political positioning is now under underway. the policy debate, if they ever were started, andrea, is over. now, look, the president understands. let's just call it for what it is. talking to mitch mcconnell and john boehner. 24, 48 hours ago. ten days before -- eight days before the sequester hits. it seems unlikely that this is more than just sort of a gesture. i think most of this is about the political positioning for march 2nd and beyond, and also the policy debate that's going to go on there which is who has the upper hand? we expect something will get done between march 1st and march 31st? who has the upper hand? what does that deal look like? heats what we're debating now. >> mark, after march 1st, who blinks first? sfwla well, you know, as chris says, we're all assuming that they'll get on the case between after march 1st that republicans have to have this for they are base, but as i was watching the lead-in into this, andrea, i was wondering who is held in lower esteem? these fallen, trablg tragic
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sports heroes or congress? that they set up something so draconian and then go into it rather than negotiate with each other. the president in putting out republican -- foreign republican -- republican ray la hood is able, it seems to me perhaps to manipulate some of these cuts so that they're going to hurt and people are going to see them because it's now kind of kabuki theater. we have this huge biological. it's not going to really hurt that much. i think we'll start hearing squeals when as ray lahood predicts. we see those first lines at the airport, and it may even hurt, you know, those wealthy republicans who don't have private jets when air traffic control and the transportation security lines grow longer. you know, there are real people, and there are real cuts. you know, we have to go through march 1st, it looks like. by the way, we're not in the leap year. february only has 28 days, so it's even shorter than you might think to get to this moment, and
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it doesn't seem like either side can give in. >> i know. march 1st is next friday. a week from today. a lot will happen between now and then. let's talk about ted cruise because both of you have been writing about ted cruise. margaret, you also are writing about marco rubio and his foreign trip. ted cruise and his speech in ohio, chris, what are you reading into the early stages of this freshman? >> we suspected this strongly when ted cruise won a republican senate primary in texas in 2012, and he is a man in a hurry and someone who is not going to go along to get along. if we thought jim demint didn't play by the rules of the senate, well, ted cruise is jim demint 2.30 or 3 had the 0. we saw in the hearing with secretary clinton, we saw in the confirmation hearings with chuck hagel that cruise was by far the most prosecutorial, the most
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aggressive of the questioners of both of those folks, and he is someone who makes no bones about his -- both his ambition and his willingness to buck how the senate is supposed to work. we're going to hear more from him before we hear less. >> you know, the way the senate is supposed to work is that you don't ask a question about the friends of hamas until you check out whether there is even such an organization as the friends of hamas. just saying. margaret, could marco rubio and the foreign trip. he has credentials and has given foreign policy speeches. here he was with king abdullah. he was in israel and had a press conference there, met with netanyahu. he is really -- there he is with shimon peres. there is quite a lot of activity by marco rubio, even since the state of the union water episode. >> well, he has now checked his foreign policy box. you'll remember these are not always easy trips. mitt romney did not have a good
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trip -- when it took one during his campaign. if you look at marco rubio and ted cruise, i mean, he has been there longer. rube wroe seems to do everything right, and he doesn't have a mean streak. i would add to what chris said that ted cruise seems to enjoy being tough and taking on chuck hagel many such a vicious way, questioning his loyalty to the united states. a bridge way too far. when you have senator john mccain scolding you, when senator john mccain has been one person who has been after chuck hagel on his own, then you know you have gone too far. rubio was flawless last week. he took a mistake, which looked like the mistake of a water bottle, and turned it into a plus, like few politicians have ever done. maybe like bill clinton we went on, i think, one of the late night talk shows to make fun of
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johnny carson. john where i carson. s thank you. >> well, rubio so far has just about done everything right, and if one of the big players in the emgregs debate, working with the other side, and has shown that aside from that state of the union response, he picks himself up and moves right on and is making his foreign trip. thank you very much. margaret, good to see you. chris, of course, our daily fix. connecticut lawmakers, meanwhile, are moving very swiftly on new laws at the state level to combat gun violence inspect response to the newtown massacre. vice president biden was there yesterday to urge them on. >> the reflection of what the standing assumption is in american politics today. that this is kind of the third rail of politics. that if you take this on, somehow there will be a severe political price to pay for doing, it because that's what's happened in the pass.
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that's what's happened in the past. people say and you read and people write about the political risk and why they're unacceptable to take on. i say it's unacceptable not to take these on. >> and joining me now is senator richard bloomenthal from connecticut who, of course, hosted that conference. thank you for being with us. that was a powerful speech yesterday. we carried a lot of it live. joe lied biden's speech and looked at the rest of it. is that.spirit that is now informing what connecticut lawmakers, both at the state and national level can do? >> very much the spirit, andrea. not only here in connecticut, but i think around the country and the vice president suspect very passionate and powerful speech. not only demonstrated the commitment of the administration to accountable efforts to reform our gun laws, but also the conference itself marked the first time that all of the individuals and groups have
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represented there and came together and are moving toward consensus and first responders, the families of victims, people from law enforcement, public officials, coming together, and i think showing really how this time is different. in the past in the wake of every one of these tragedies, tucson, virginia tech, aurora, there's been an outpouring of emotion and outrage, but never the kind of organizing, grassroots organizing that this conference reflected, and i think that is a historic step that shows how this time is different. here in connecticut and around the country, specific measures are necessary, and i think that's where the country is moving. >> what about the national rifle association's $350,000 campaign? that's not a huge amount of money compared to what mike bloomberg and others on the other side are putting in, but there's more money than that, but this is targeting a number of senators, including senator susan collins from maine and the
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others from states where guns are big issues, and, you know, is that going to be effective to peel off enough votes and stimey anything happening in the senate? money has often an am outside affect. we know indisputably that the american people are with us on this issue. the majority of american people, 80% or more want criminal background checks, want an end to gun trafficking, want the kind of responsible and sensible commonsense steps that are very feasible and doable now. the point here is that there is always an entrenched minority, four million members in the marshall rifle association. maybe some among them. but even they are coming around to this feud. the majority of responsible gun
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owners want reform. i don't think money can stop this kind of reform effort now. remember, two months ago this issue was essentially untouchable. now after this unspeakable horror many newtown, it has become an unstoppable movement, i think, from a grassroots level. again, organizing is key. it can overcome the money. >> sflor, thank you very much for joining us from connecticut. >> thank you. >> and the secretary of state john kerry is about to leave for his first trip to foreign capitals. we'll preview the challenges that await him with former defense secretary william cohen and talk about hagel. and, later, britain's ambassador to the united states am. >> plus, monday join us live from london. we'll take the show on the road with secretary kerry. that's monday at 1:00 eastern only on andrea mitchell reports. ♪
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>> the snapt will be returning next week, and they will be voting on chuck hagel's nomination. william cohen served as secretary of defense during the clinton administration, and joins me now. right now leon panetta had to go to the brussels meeting, the mato meeting, and we are still waiting on chuck hagel, but the big difference is that with senator richard shelby yesterday, republicans saying he will support chuck hagel, clearly they all think, the white house thinks, and so do the hagel forces that they're going to have the 60 votes to overcome that filibuster. how damaged, though, has he been? has this all been to him? >> well, i think it's part of the damage that we're inflicting upon ourselves. it's the old expression, the most grieveus wounds are those that are self-inflicted. we've been inflicting serious
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damage on our credibility. not just at home, but abroad in the middle east region. the world is punching us. we can't make a decision on budgets. we're going over a fiscal cliff, as such, with sequestration and becoming part of the -- actually taking the -- we're losing credibility. i think this will highly impact -- i think chuck hagel should be confirmed. if he were a democrat -- is he actually a moderate conservative, but if he were a democrat and were no, ma'am made, would the republicans oppose him you should those circumstances because of his views? his views actually are quite consistent with those of president obama. we just got re-elected. i think that given a vote that he will be confirmed, and i think once confirmed he will serve many that capacity well. >> as a republican who has served in a democratic administration and precisely to have a bipartisan approach, which is what bill clinton wanted, and that was the model, the paradigm for what this president was trying to do with chuck hagel, but now how does he reach out to republicans who have clearly rejected him in large numbers and have been abusive some in the process?
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>> well, he will have to go to the hell and work with them, and they -- i assume they still are great patriots. even though they may disagree with chuck hagel that they don't want it this country to be compromised in terms of our national security, and they will have to work with him. put aside any differences they've had and say let's work together because our country's security is at stake, and i would expect them to do that. i hi chuck is such a gentleman himself and committed to the security of this country that he will do the seam by reaching ruse that desk on the hill and shaking hands with his former colleagues. >> john kerry leaves and has a whirlwind trip. i think it's nine countries, 11 days. a tough trip. he is facing a lot of challenges. syria dissolving into an even worse conflict. we've got pressure coming from some of the allies to do more. some to do less. he is going to meet with the syrian opposition in rome. that plus iran making moves now
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a couple of days ahead of the first negotiations with the west -- the six western powers on nuclear -- on their suspected nuclear program. what do you think is the top p priority of his mission? >> i think there are two. basically he is going on a listening mission. that's all well and good. it's good for him to listen. at some point in time before the president goes over on the next trip, we have to say what we're prepared to do. so he'll listen, come back, report to the president, talk about what needs to be and what can be done collectively working on syria. that will involve russia, and nothing will be solved in syria without the assistance in russia. meeting with mr. lavarov will be important as well. then he has to understand that the entire region, qatar and others, they had real security interests involved as far as iran is concerned, and they have security issues that we need to help fulfill. the release of assistance to the
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u.a. saudi arabia. these are issues affecting syria. they're also affecting iran and israel, and are finally, of course, we have to watch what's taking place in eswript. we don't see democracy unfolding in the way it should, and jobs aren't created, and then the people who have been on the streets are going to be revolting again. here highly educated and unemployed. that's not -- >> not at all. briefly, just p a few seconds we have left. the whole cyber war. the seeber attacks. i know you know china very well. how tough should the president be? is it time to start really putting this front and center? >> we have to put it front and center. not just with china where, with russia wra. this notion that somehow china will be involved. we have allies that are doing the same thing, and we've been doing it for years. stealing our secrets, intellectual property, so it's been going on, and i think we have to take an aggressive position on this, and i think the president by setting up this command, cyber command, saying
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we have to defend our infrastructure, and the pentagon's infrastructure to be sure, and then we have to have capability. those kinds will help deter some of the activities taking place right now. >> i remember once interviewing a former french official who was in charge of the french intelligence operation against our splekt wal property and trade secrets, and he was very open about it as a retired espionage agent for france. thank you very much, bill cohen. >> good to be with you. >> up neck, fighting that cyber war, we talk to former homeland security chief michael cherthoff. up for an oscar and detained at the airport? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy. we've shared what we've learned,
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companies, security analysts were warning that this was not simply the work of rogue agents but, many of the, of the chinese government. well, swroink me now is former homeland security secretary michael cherthoff who also wrote an op ed in the "wall street journal" warning us of exactly this, of these security threats. you not only warned about those flets, but you have acknowledged wrushgs firm has acknowledged that, your firm and your partner is the former dci were actually attacked. you defended against it. >> we were able to block it. like many other enterprises, government and nongovernment, we are the subject of scrutiny and target by hackers, and, you know, there's an old saying that already two types of people. though who have been hacked and those who don't know they've been hacked. i think that's the way people have to look at this problem. >> you have warned about the problem. others have warned about the problem. the difference now is that this week we had a report with chapter and verse, and that the
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targeting was done by a specific unit of the chinese military in a specific building, 12-story building in shanghai. this is the first real hard evidence that the public has seen. that makes a difference. >> it's important that this report relies on unclassified activity, so you can discuss it openly and just full disclosure well, work with a firm, and i know them well. there have been prior reports about this. two years ago the national counter intelligence executive identified china as one of the major actors in the heft of intellectual property, but they didn't tie it specifically to the unit. the report actually tracks it back to a particular location and a particular part of the army, and that tends to make it a little bit more concrete for the american public. >> it also makes it more difficult for china to get away with its denials. >> well, they're going to continue to deny it, and i think you saw in the press they immediately came out and said there's no actual proof in the sense that there's no smoking gun.
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it's a little like the o.j. simpson case, and, no, i didn't do it. i think really for most people who read your report, it's a very powerful piece of evidence that supports this is part of chinese state policy to acquire our intellectual capital and use it for their own economic development. >> the president signed an executive order and the attorney general and others held a conference this week with what we're going to do next to defend. given the fact that the senate and the house failed to pass cyber legislation and there was a lot of conflicting signals, you know, business groups and republicans said there was too much regulation. civil rights and privacy experts, advocates said it was too invasive, and the combination scuttled the bill. what the administration has proposed this week, does that have any real teeth? >> i think what the administration has proposed will be a good step forward. it will promote information sharing from the government to the private sector. it will help the development of voluntary standards.
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what it can't do is open up the door to better sharing from the private sector back to the government and among the various parts of the private sector. some legislation like chairman rogers, i think, submitted about a week ago would be very helpful in that regard. you know, the problem, andrea, is most of the assets are in private hands, and we have to operate collectively in order to defend ourselves. otherwise, it's like predators going after a herd. they look for the waebest member of the herd, and they pounce on that member, and then that puts everybody in jeopardy. >> michael, thank you very much. mr. secretary, good to see you. sfroo good to see you. >> up next, secretary kerry's first stop on his first foreign trip. we'll talk to british ambassador to the united states, sir peter. and we head back to south africa shortly for a look at what the next four months will hold for oscar pistorius. stay with us. [ male announcer ] marie callender's finally found a way to get her oven baked taste straight from the microwave. like her oven roasted chicken baked in a rich, creamy alfredo sauce. she calls them her new comfort bakes.
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london. why shouldn't it? sunday night with a world of crisis on the agenda, including the war in syria, iran's nuclear program, and a host of other issues. joining us to set the table british ambassador to the united states sir peter. thank you for being with us. secretary kerry is going to see the prime minister. obviously meetings with the forch secretary front and center i though kerry's mind could be the meetings he is going to have the syrian opposition groups coming up in rome. >> thanks for having me on the show again. such a pleasure to see you. i think there's lots for them to talk about. first of all, we're very pleased that he is beginning this first tour in london, and that feels to us kind of right. i would say that, wouldn't i? i think it is important. there's an awful lot of things for them to talk about. of course, william hayward was in washington yesterday to say good-bye to hillary clinton, and he saw a certain amount of john kerry then and other senior members of the foreign and security policy team here in d.c., so this is not first contact. john kerry has been in london not very long ago, but i think front and center on the agenda
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are bound to be what are we going to do about sear yashgs and there's going to be discussion about the middle east peace process. my guess is they will talk about iran. i think the for the purpose secretary will also want to say how pleased he is that the president has announce thad he wants to get on with the negotiation on what we used to call an e.u.-u.s. free trade agreement, but now he has christenned the trans-atlantic trait trade, which we think is important too. >> it opens up possibilities in terms of better trade, better investment across the atlantic. >> more growth, more jobs, all those things. >> when it comes to iran, ju in the last 24 hours, we've heard from vienna, from the u.n. weapons inspectors that iran is sending mixed signals. they are going to a much more efficient new generation of centrifuges in their main nuclear plant, but it is above ground, and they are not yet operating the centrifuges below ground in the more secret facility that everyone is so worried about. they haven't crossed the red lines yet. does this open up the possibility of more diplomacy, the first meetings will take place in kazakhstan, as you well
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know, with the six powers. >> well, we never are quite sure what games the iranians are playing. as long as they do not cross the very clear red lines that have been played out, and then there is time for diplomacy. i think we, the united states deposit, the other members of the e3, the p-5 plus one would like is a political settlement, which we can absolutely trust and verify, which means that iran is not pursuing a military weapons nuclear weapons program. how long have we got for that? well, to some extent it depends what they do, how rapidly they go with enrichment and so ownering but i think that right now what we've got in kazakhstan and who knows one day through bilateral contrasts is to try to solve this problem without having to resort to military action, which is one of the option that is people are still keeping on the table. we would prefer sanctions, diploma as where i, persuasion, commonsense to prevail. we have to keep all the option on the table. let's hope that in the months that are still there, that we
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can find a diplomatic solution. >> and, finally, the whole middle east issue has just been really disengaged. many critics have said that the united states has not moved aggressively enough. tony blair and former prime minister, has called for more action. john kerry from everything that he has said really seems very eager to put much more pressure on that israeli-palestinian process. not so much this trip, but m coming trip with the president to jerusalem. >> i think john kerry has immense experience of the region, of the issues. he knows all the people. i think he is widely respected in many of these different countries. my understanding is that he would like to give this a serious go. we in europe -- not just the british, the french, and others, would like the united states to show -- a fresh effort to deal, first of all, with the israel-palestine issue, but also to work with us on the other very difficult issues, the
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syrian crisis which we have fwot to address as well, and to see whether we can make some progress. we all, i think, believe that time is running out for both israelis and palestinians for a two-state solution. we would love to see john kerry getting involved with it, and all we're hearing from him and indeed from the white house is that the united states would like to work with us medical record to try to see whether in 2013 we can make real progress. >> very important time. thank you very much. see you in london. sir peter. >> look forward to it. >> more on the breaking news out of south africa where oscar pistorius has been released on bail. nbc's rojit has an up close seat in the courtroom today and joins me now from pretoria. what is the latest? >> well, it took two anxious hours for the magistrate to deliver this ruling, and at the end much it when he announced that oscar pistorius had won bail, there was a scream of yet from his relatives who were sat inside the public gallery. essentially his lawyers had
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argued that he was too famous to flee, that there's always a commotion inside the airport whenever he goes through security and so there was no risk of him leaving the country. however, the magistrate did raise questions about his evidence, the account that he had given about what happened on valentine's morning last week at his home when reeve wra steenkamp, his girlfriend, was killed. however, the main deal at trial is perhaps in june, but there was great relief from his family. they began crying and embracing each other inside the public gallery of the court. then they locked arms and stood in silence, and they prayed, and tonight they've returned home. they were driving through the streets of pretoria in a huge convoy with a great deal of emotion, and he has been released on bail of around $100,000. as part of that condition, he must report to a police station twice a week beginning on
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monday, andrea. >> thank you very much for all those details. appreciate it. next, the man behind this year's oscar no, ma'am mated documentary. five broken cameras. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] from the way the bristles move to the way they clean, once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never go back to a regular manual brush. its three cleaning zones with dynamic power bristles reach between teeth with more brush movements to remove up to 100% more plaque than a regular manual brush. and even 76% more plaque than sonicare flexcare in hard to reach areas. oral-b deep sweep 5000 power brush. life opens up when you do. she was a picky eater. well now i'm her dietitian and last year, she wasn't eating so well. so i recommended boost complete nutritional drink to help her get the nutrition she was missing. and now she drinks it every day. well, it tastes great! [ male announcer ] boost has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones,
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the documentary five broken cameras is the first palestinian film to receive an academy award nomination directed by filmmakers from both sides of this protracted conflict, palestinian and an az really. the story unfolds through the eyes of a palestinian farmer. five cameras broken many times and repaired are used to document a gripping story of a village's monday violent resistance to the building of a wall dividing their land. >> every camera is an expensive --
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p. >> joining me now is imad, the co-director of "five broken cameras. owe "welcome, and congratulation on your nomination. imad, i understand that when you were traveling to the u.s., i guess, going to l.a. you were detained when you landed. tell me about that. here you are an oscar nominee, and you had to explain why you were coming to the united states sfloom yeah. thank you very much. this is my sixth time that i come to united states this year for this film, and this time i came with my family, with my son jibrail. he is the hero of the film, and my wife.
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this time p p it was -- when we got in the israeli airport, i was stopped with my family, and they were asking me to give more proof, more documents why i came here to united states. i told them that i am an oscar nominee and my film was nominated to the oscars so it was very difficult for them to give that palestinian mom matno to the oscar. told them i had veez wra. i had letters from the awards, but they asked me to give them more proof and more documents about why i came to united states, and if -- they told me if i don't come up with the documents, they will send me back to my country, so it was very serious moment for me, so i started sending texts or e-mails to different people, to mike
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gilmore and different people here in l.a., and after that they asked us to another room to wait, so we were waiting in this room for more than 30 minutes, so sense we got to the airport, it takes maybe one hour and a half. >> tell me, you collaborated with an israeli director, co-director. tell me about that. if you win the oscar, will a palestinian and an israeli both be there to accept it jointly? >> we will be there, both of us, yes, but the truth is this is -- this film is about me, about my life and about my family, about my village, about the nonviolent resistance of my village. it's very long period of shooting, and creating this film, about seven years, and this is a palestinian documentary. this is my film. >> understood. >> yeah. so it's about my life, about the daily life, and i want to see
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what's happened in the airport. this is a very small example of what my people face every day, so our children and our kids, the daily life of our kids and they grow up in different situations in very bad conditions, and so to live in small am part of the west bank, it's about 1.4 of the size of california with more than 500 -- and more than 130 -- to face the soldiers and face the reality of -- that we are not free and we are occupied people, so it's not easy. >> well, it's an unusual voice, and we congratulate you on the nomination, and we'll all be watching on sunday. thank you very much.
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>> thank you very much. >> meanwhile, of course, ben affleck is going to be a big story at the oscars. just about every director's award has gone his way for "argo" his first big directorial debut. the film is based on the rescue of six americans who posed as members of a canadian film the embassy in teheran was seized. but afleck is denied an academy award nomination for best director. the film is nominated for best picture among other awar. when the film first came out, i talked to ben affleck about why he wanted to tell this story. >> i knew that it would be rez na nant in some way talking about revolution and the consequences of revolution and us in business with the leaders in the middle east. i had no idea it would become really tragically resonant as you mentioned and what happened in benghazi, you know, i could look at the footage to research the movie of 30-plus years ago,
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would look almost exactly like what was on the news right now. that had a profound effect on me. one wonders, are we just repeetding ourselves? what does it take to get out of the cycle? >> when you look at the opening sequences of "argo," it's a 'salt on the embassy. how do you recreate that? >> that was the biggest searches because i knew that it needed to have that sort of raw energy and had to get several thousand extras and since we were in turkey, we had to teach them farsi slogans and maintain folks' energy level. the really -- the real challenge was that, you know, students revolution and most of the students were in school and most folks working age were working and most of the extras to get to do that are people who had retired and had retiree's revolution. >> how did you get involved with
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this? >> this is a comedy, a thriller, political intrigue in the cia and all true. >> they acknowledge they exaggerated the ending and very tense scene at the airport. that did not take place but based on the rescue of a cia plan and all wishing ben affleck lots of luck on oscar night. we'll be right back. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do.
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which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? chris cillizza, there's a statue arriving of rosa parks tonight and installed at the capitol tomorrow. rather, next week. this is the first african-american statue of a woman installed in the capitol. that's a pretty big deal. >> i think it's a huge deal. long overdue and as i was reading up on this, first full body statue of any african-american -- there's a bust of martin luther king jr. and much needed. overdue and a nice tribute to someone who changed history. >> i suspect the president will
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be going over for that, as well. this is a big moment next week. thank you very much, chris cillizza. thanks for a great road. you will be in part of my time on the road. thanks in advance for that. join us monday live from london on the first leg of secretary of state john kerry's first official trip to europe. and the middle east. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "news nation." red on red. >> there we are. just hot. thanks, andrea. coming up. >> you're hot. >> next hour, oscar pistorius makes bail. the coach says he could be back training if you can believe on monday. we're live with what's next in his case and the trial ahead. and a united flight, take a look at this, skids off the runway in cleveland in what's believed to be a weather-related accident as the snow buries the midwest and where the storm and what could be rolling on east this weekend. plus, conservative radio talk show host and ever romney
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